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  • UpTrust AdminSA•...

    What are hyperobjects?: Skeptics

    The word we already had In 1962, Rachel Carson described pesticides accumulating in food chains, persisting in soil for decades, detectable only through effects on other organisms. Distributed, persistent, temporally extended. She did not need a neologism....
    philosophy
    environmental policy
    environmental science
    history of science and science communication
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  • The Scribe Accord•...

    A More Humble Humanity

    There are moments in our lives where we harmonize with the things that are around us. It happens when what truly matters to us individually finds its way into the deepest layer of our core being. Softly it whispers to the soul, signaling a connection to humanity....
    philosophy
    sociology
    environmental science
    humanities
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  • Eric Stevens•...

    Stop Debating Outcomes. Start Replacing Inputs.

    We talk about systems like they are ideas. They are not. Every economic system is built on a small set of physical inputs. Commodities. Materials. Things that get dug up, grown, refined, shipped, and standardized. Whoever controls those inputs controls everything downstream....
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    economics
    environmental science
    sustainable development
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  • Missy avatar

    Frozen Wednesday Feb 4. Frozen Wednesday.

    The ground is still locked in ice. The trees are quiet. Even the deer step softer when the world feels this tense.

    Nancy Guthrie is still missing — a family somewhere living every parent-child nightmare in real time.

    Alex Pretti’s death has now been ruled a homicide, and the questions that follow feel heavier than the winter air.

    The Epstein files continue to ripple across the world, upsetting old power structures and reminding us that truth has a way of surfacing — even when buried deep.

    Meanwhile, the president is openly talking about national elections, and Americans are once again leaning forward, listening carefully, deciding what kind of country we want to be.

    And yet… the Super Bowl is this weekend. Millions will gather, food will be made, laughter will spill across living rooms. Because that is also who we are — people who keep living, keep connecting, even while history churns around us.

    This is the strange rhythm of being human:
    fear and football, grief and groceries, uncertainty and love.

    Stay warm. Stay aware. Stay kind to one another.

    Strong humans don’t look away — but we also don’t forget how to hold each other up.

    ❄️

    Sunnie19•...

    It's a Mess When Nature Impacts and Affects Human Lives...Is Mother Nature Nurturing US or Hindering Is...

    environmental science
    human-nature relationship
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  • W

    PLANTS ARE NOT CONSCIOUS.  

     

    This is my response to a post to a Facebook group post about the idea that plants and animals without brains have consciousness; that plants, and other life forms without nervous systems like ours, might also have it. The comment, albeit popular in a trendy sorta' way, is far from justified. Here's why:

     

     

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    Moving the Goal Posts:

     

    To start with consciousness isn’t being found in plants. There’s no evidence for that at all. What is happening is that the word itself is being reframed to include more physical processes than intellectual reflection. That’s not new, panpsychism has been around for hundreds of years, probably longer. What’s changed isn’t the "discovery", it’s the cultural redefining of what consciousness is. With all of the obstacles to overcome creating AIs, computer science started taking it seriously, so people stopped laughing at the idea, and that tolerance has spread to neurology and layman speculations about nature; BUT let’s be clear, there is no actual evidence for plant consciousness at all. None. There’s just a social shift to how popular culture is saying it should be defined. The problem being that simple reaction ISN'T consciousness.

    When people say “plants are conscious,” what they’re really describing is what a plant does when it’s faced with something that might harm it, but that’s not awareness, it’s an evolved physical response. You grow your hair for evolutionary reasons too, but are you aware of your hair growing? Can you choose for it not to? Are you monitoring the process as it happens

     

     

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    What Actually is Consciousness?

     

    Consciousness is an evolved, sophisticated result of the need for certain animals to move in complex ways for complex reasons. Take pain, as one example. Why does pain exist? Because when we’re in pain, we move away from it, QUICKLY. That’s its purpose. If you had to analyze pain before reacting, if say you leaned on a stove and had to think about whether to move or not, you’d be badly burned before you finished the thought. Pain bypasses thought. It makes us act now. It evolved due to the need for instant mobility.

     

    A tree can’t move quickly. It doesn’t need pain. It doesn’t need that kind of awareness. ITS strategy is to become strong and massive so to withstand harm rather than avoid it. Grass handles harm by being flexible and abundant; one blade dies, another takes its place, the species survives. There’s no evolutionary pressure there for the kind of awareness pain provides animals. And since all of the emotions function as contextually behavioral presets using mobility as its medium like pain, plants have no reason to evolve those either.

     

    Those preset reactions in us, are the roots of what we call “awareness.” The stored memories of predicted contexts that allows us to adjust our reactions more or less appropriately become our beliefs. And the total structural paradigm of those beliefs along with the emotions and awareness, cause our self-awareness, and our inner life, and THAT’s what we call "consciousness."

     

     

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    If Plants Don't Think, What Are We Looking At?

     

    Another thing people with this "plants think" idea get wrong is that plants quite literally don’t think or talk to each other. More accurately put, they react to each other through fungi. It’s the fungi doing the coordination, not the plant. So if we want to assign consciousness to something you don't assign it to the foot, you assign it to the brain, if you git what I'm sayin'. Through mycorrhizal symbiosis fungi trade their stability and ability to distribute resources for the plant’s sugar and energy. The fungi decide how nutrients, water, and chemical signals are shared. If you want to talk about something “brain-like,” it’s the fungi, not the tree. The fungi organize the forest. The plant itself just reacts.

     

    And this kind of cooperation; one organism joining with another to create a larger, organized whole; isn’t unique to plants and fungi. It happens between animals and like with pollinators, even between animals and plants. Then there's when one plant or animal survives as a parasite of the other. Interestingly, the prevailing theory is that this is how single-celled life evolved in the first place. One simple cell drifting through the world, over time, adapts to new environments and splits into variations. Two different variations meet again, and as it happens come to work together as it helped them both survive. The ones that don’t cooperate either have to evolve differently to survive or die out, and the ones working together, integrated until eventually one cell absorbed the other. The idea is that, that's how modern cells got their inner mechanisms, like the cell's nucleus, that made them more complex cells than just the simpler walled off sectioned cells that they'd evolved from.

     

    Were those early cells (or even the modern ones) “conscious”? Of course not. They're only cells. But can they react? Absolutely. Reaction and cooperation aren’t awareness. They’re steps toward complexity.

     

     

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    The Brain Itself is Not Responsible:

     

    The post also brought up the idea that animals without centralized brains have their own consciousness, without a brain, and yeah, I'd have to agree with that. The thing is though, the pivotal mechanism creating consciousness isn’t the brain itself. It’s the nervous system within the brain. The brain works because it’s a highly organized communication network like hardware capable of running complex, shifting contexts. That’s what lets us think and feel. An octopus, as an example, has a distributed nervous system that allows for a similar kind of complexity, even though it’s organized differently than a centralized brain with a spinal cord.

     

    So yes, you can have a brain without consciousness, but you can’t have consciousness without a nervous system (or something equally complex to serve as the hardware) .....even an analogue machine would do the job, it just wouldn't be as quick as what animals have. Plants don’t have that. Their structure simply doesn’t allow for the kind of integrated, layered processing that consciousness requires.

     

     

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    But We Aren't Plants, How Can We Know For Sure?:

     

    And I think it important to address an argument possibly implied in all of this; the idea that plant consciousness might just be too alien for us to recognize is neither an objective position, nor is it true. That we can’t judge them by our standards because we don’t share the same kind of mind doesn't keep us from a clear analysis and comparison of the mechanisms involved. This idea contradicts itself.

     

    Our definitions of consciousness come from us, from humans observing and describing the world. Plants aren’t taking part in that. The word “consciousness” belongs to the language of beings talking to themselves, not the plants. If you say plants have it, you’re already using the word differently than someone who says they don’t, and in a way that compares what they experience to ours. Their assumptions are in the possibility of that comparison.

     

    It’s not that we can’t know either way, that our hands are tied and we've no choice but to remain agnostic on this. The arguments I've already made stand on their own. It’s that we’re talking about different things entirely. People who side with making the determination rest on a definition of "consciousness" that's precise enough to be used deductively, making this a 'yes' or 'no' answer, while people who side with not making that determination rest on the idea that we don't really know what "consciousness" is.

     

    The thing is, is that while we can't know the intricate details about every last horse that exists, WE ACTUALLY DO have a clear definition of what "horse" means regardless of the infinite focus on those details, and as long as the same can be said for "consciousness", whether anything has it, will be at some point determinable. That is UNLESS, some of us are determined to keep moving the goal posts without considering the mechanism, and the definition keeps becoming blurred.

     

    To hopefully hit this point home, remember the old “how do I know your blue, is my blue?” argument? Sure, we can’t directly feel each other’s experience objectively, without tainting our perspectives with our own individual views, but what we can do is look at the mechanisms that produce them. We can see how the brain processes light, how those processes create the experience of color, and then compare those mechanisms between people. From that, we can define what the “blue” mechanism is, and how we're experiencing the same and different things when the color pops up. The same goes for consciousness. We can see the structures that support awareness, memory, and emotional integration, and plants simply don’t have them. So unless we stretch “consciousness” to mean “anything that reacts,” there’s simply no reason to say plants have it.

     

     

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    The Popularity of the Idea That They Do:

     

    So why are so many jumping on the bandwagon? It's the other "old" story. People project themselves into everything in order to understand them. It's anthropomorphism 101. Some of us can't even analyze anything without projecting our self centered human traits on to it. It's why prejudices pollute so many of the beliefs of so many of the people you see around you. Whenever you say to yourself "How can this guy be so blinded by this crazy idea?" think about what's happening here and whether there's actually anything at all pointing to the idea that plants can think.

     

    AverageGuy123•...
    I kind of disagree wtih the orginal premise.  About Plants not having consciousness. I know with the right equipment, we can listen to plants. And they make different sounds when they are hurt or when they are please with the sun shine and food....
    environmental science
    consciousness
    plant biology
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  • W

    A Short Word on Self Reliance.  

    Self reliance involves emotion and consciousness. Every example of one who is self reliant, is an example of one who must rely on things beyond them. But ultimately, if we count the whole human race, it's reliant on other life forms, and if we go deeper and count all life on Earth, that life is reliant on a broader stability of constrained possibilities; chemistry and physics and causality, etc. Self reliance leans on all of these things, taking them for granted, as if they just are.

     

    There's nothing in existence that doesn't rely on the things it relates to, except the entirety of existence, itself. This is the SUBjective world. We all are only how we relate to other things. So when we single ourselves out as being "self reliant" we're not appealing to any line drawn between our existence and the rest of the world, we're appealing to the feeling and awareness that our survival is within our control.

     

    Self reliance isn't an act of agency, but a PERCEPTUAL line drawn between the ways we're free, and the ways we're not. The "wholly self reliant" are people with a prejudice; an optimistic bias; they're those who focus primarily on the freedom and try to avoid recognizing the ways they're not.

    MysticLedgerinConstructive Skeptical Philosophy•...
    I agree. Humanity relies on life, life depends upon the order of nature, and nature itself rests upon the harmony of the higher laws - the rhythms of causality, vibration, and polarity that hold the Universe in motion....
    philosophy
    environmental science
    self-help
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  • BridgieB avatar

    Biblomancy for February . “It was one of those February days when the sun shines and the wind blows cold: when it is summer in the light and winter in the shade.”
    — Great Expectations

    Godless Guru•...
    Seasons demonstrate how the planet is telling us that it is, in and of itself, alive. It tells us this in the same way as every plant & animal occupying it....
    philosophy
    ecology
    environmental science
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  • Sara Schultz avatar

    Solomon is a Baby Angel. Ever since I was a child I recognized that some of my thoughts “glow.”

    Many many times since Solomon was born I have thought “Solomon is a baby angel” but tonight I had the glowing thought ✨ “Solomon is a Baby Angel” ✨

    The former could be translated into “Solomon is my little cutie” or something of the like and/but ✨ “Solomon is a Baby Angel” ✨ is a much more literal acknowledgement that Solomon is a Soul who has fallen from Heaven to be with me. When I have this thought I can see him falling at least through my whole pregnancy, maybe through my years of infertility, maybe even longer (or “longer” in some way that isn’t really described in temporal language) and I can see him being born and having fallen and us making one of his names Damien (son of Lucifer - at least since The Omen).

    Then I’m in awe and gratitude for Solomon’s huge love for me in coming here to guard and guide me as the Little Angel He Is. Every day he is here for me to love, and in loving him more than I’ve ever loved myself he reminds me and teaches me how to love myself more. How to love myself rightly and well and guard and guide myself. He gives me grace and I learn to give myself grace…

    My little Guru, my best Friend, my tiny Adversary, my baby Son…

     

    blasomenessphemy•...

    Upvoting because I think loving infatuation that completes the water cycle back to us is the obsession that the world needs.

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    philosophy
    environmental science
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  • jordan avatar

    "You know, there are 13 ways of doing anything. 11 of them will work. Just pick one and do it.”. Dennis Hightower, who at the time was head of Disney International.

    He asked me why I wasn’t doing something, and I responded by explaining the pros and cons of two different ways of doing it. Thoughtfully, he replied “You know, there are 13 ways of doing anything. 11 of them will work. Just pick one and do it.”

    The best Founders avoid over-analyzing. At a startup, you don’t have time — and the result will most likely be marginal. Pick a way and do it. Be consistently decisive.

    https://www.nfx.com/post/9-habits-world-class-startups
    jordanSA•...
    Separate (minor) question about what you meant re nuclear power, since I don't think it falls in this category. And I think coal (as the most common alternative) is more harmful overall. What do you think?...
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    energy policy
    nuclear energy
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  • sness avatar

    Is having children selfish or selfless? Controversial question/interesting discussion time!

    Is having children a selfish or a selfless act?

    I'll put my thoughts in comments - would love to hear yours :)

    jordanSA•...
    I had a similar response to the first point — the compulsion to procreate is life - it's the least selfish thing one can do. We went from single celled organisms to fish to apes to us because of that compulsion (along with a bunch of other stuff)....
    philosophy
    biology
    environmental science
    evolution
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  • sness avatar

    Is having children selfish or selfless? Controversial question/interesting discussion time!

    Is having children a selfish or a selfless act?

    I'll put my thoughts in comments - would love to hear yours :)

    thehunmonkgroup•...
    Can I push on your perspectives a bit?   I wonder if it's accurate to frame the "felt sense compulsion" as selfish? Maybe it's much bigger than the individual, an evolutionary force being pushed through each of us in different ways?...
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    sociology
    environmental science
    evolutionary biology
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  • jordanSA•...

    What cool new technologies are you seeing emerge? How do we know we can trust them?

    Curious about all, but I'd especially love to see non-AI versions, like: New batteries for solar: storing heat in big piles of dirt A while back Tommy mentioned cowfart backpacks Maybe it's something old for you, but we're not in your field so we don't know about it yet Even...
    environmental science
    technology
    energy
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  • Arun•...

    A future I love is more village than city.

    Perhaps there's a sci-fi version here where humans become much much better at cities, but the version I like at the moment is Village 2.0. I want to keep networked, light-speed global communication, so knowledge can continue to evolve, enrich, and compound....
    philosophy
    sociology
    urban planning
    environmental science
    technology
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  • Shera JoyCry•...

    A Future to love - POLOWF

    Seeing this future, this parallel universe that already exists if even only in the mind. A world where eating animals is a thing of the past.  In the future humans have chosen to have a more sustainable world and longevity with higher quality of life....
    nutrition
    public health
    environmental science
    sustainable agriculture
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  • jordan avatar

    A List of Civilizational Well-Being Topics that I believe we can help make happen better.  

    You can talk about whatever you want on UpTrust!

    And, here is a list of some of the conversations we think have the highest potential for civilizational wellbeing—topics that are currently highly polarized and difficult for our society to make sense of and work with. We believe UpTrust can help make these conversations happen and lead to practical positive outcomes for better futures!

    I'd love to hear y'all's thoughts and also see what you think is missing. My apologies on the boring tone—aka the obvious use of AIs to help make this.


    Cluster 1. Personal & Cultural Development

    Focus: How individuals develop, thrive, and find purpose in a rapidly changing world—and how that personal growth intertwines with collective well-being, cultural evolution, and consciousness shifts.

    Meaning & Purpose

    • Meaning and purpose—especially in a world with accelerating job automation / emerging AI superintelligence
    • Personal adaptation to insane pace of change and informational overload
    • Personal development and adult education
      • Polarized examples: hustle culture vs. anti-ambition, “Follow your passion” vs. pure pragmatism, meaning vs. material necessity

    Mental Health and Wellbeing

    • Relationship with medication & holistic approaches

    • Non-standard approaches often dismissed or uncritically embraced (psychedelics, plant medicine, shamanic practices); also legal and cultural issues (appropriated or isolated)

    • Integrating indigenous, evidence-based, and postmodern methods; understanding interdependencies of four-quadrant approaches

    • Longevity research (Bryan Johnson), framing and relationship to death and dying 

    Spiritual/Philosophical Growth

    • Traditional wisdom sources, including religion, is often either dismissed entirely or uncritically romanticized
      • Understanding and harnessing / protecting from the influence of egregores (eg: antimemetics)
      • Reality/unreality of morphic resonance, how it works in social systems

        Trans-rational epistemologies (mysticial knowing/unknowing, somatic intelligence & embodiment, dreams, art—including modern archetypes like Marvel movies and cultural phenomenon like Reality TV)

    • Ethics and nonduality

      • The nature and role of God and "what's of ultimate concern
    • Varieties of nonduality & mystical experience; also related to practice v no practice, drug/plant teachers, etc
    • Post-scarcity consciousness, transhumanism debates (enhancement enthusiasm vs. bioconservativism)

    • Deep ecological awareness and orienting to Earth as a wholistic living system with a deep-time/big-history view

    Power Dynamics and Leadership

    • What is good leadership? Who are inspiring global leaders?

    • Holding the imperfection of historical exemplars while seeking new paradigms

    • Linking personal growth to institutional/societal change (inner work + outer work)

    • Evolving collective consciousness: measurement, culture, and “what to do with it”

    • What are the ethics of various uses and abuses of power? What are the limits, if any, and how we do we hold accountability? What's the role of community, government, media, social media, religion and spiritual teachers in all of this?

    • Cultivating next-level leaders in developing world, not just in USA, etc

    Family & Community Structures

    • Addressing the breakdown of traditional communities and families

    • Balancing preservation vs. adaptation in cultural/family contexts (often polarized between traditionalist and progressive extremes)

    • The role of religion, the evolution of religion

     


    Cluster 2. Knowledge, Sensemaking & Governance

    Focus: Who we trust and why. How we create, validate, and share knowledge. How we govern ourselves, make decisions, and coordinate at scale.

    Truth & Decision-Making

    • Including learning from experts and experience, and what’s good about gatekeepers and tastemakers

    • Expert advice trapped between technocrat worship and populist rejection

    • Research/academic system reform (peer review, reproducibility crises)

    • Informing government policy, bridging academia and real-world governance

    • Prediction markets and forecasting, including how to use for improving collective decisions in public and private sectors at all scales

    Social Media, Information Warfare & Propaganda

    • Tracking trust

    • Sorting signal from noise in social media

    • Understanding algorithmic incentives and echo chambers

    • Balancing free speech with preventing disinformation

    • Media business models underrepresented in discourse

    • Info warfare and propaganda coverage

    Epistemology & Values

    • Ontological updates: reality as participatory/cocreative

    • Automatic/unconscious defenses from materialism

    • Trans-rational approaches to knowing (mentioned earlier)

    • Values/worldview integration: bridging ideological divides

    • Moral realism, ethical alignment, etc

    Digital Security & Collective Intelligence

    • Cybersecurity, data governance, protecting critical infrastructure

    • Split between tech solutionism and traditional processes

    • Non-local governance systems (network states, global consciousness) and how they interact with local sovereignty

    • Reconciling “Sovereignty and world government” questions, as well as new forms of governance like Holacracy and “Teal” organizations


    Cluster 3. Economic & Physical Infrastructure

    Focus: Tangible systems—economics, housing, healthcare, education, energy, emergency preparedness—that shape day-to-day life, and the cultural, policy, and technological frameworks that sustain these systems.

    Economic Systems & Markets

    • Meaning and purpose in work; personal meaning in an automated world

    • Costs, wages, housing costs, making a living

    • Current discourse often splits between “everything is fine” vs. “collapse imminent”

    • Measuring and addressing economic inequality (meritocracy vs. “system rigged”)

      • Hatred and demonization of the superwealthy, realities of class and upward mobility, etc
    • Housing affordability crisis (“bubble” vs. “new normal”)

    • Job automation and future of work/UBI

    • Market design for public goods

    • Innovation funding: “VC solves all” vs. “only public goods matter”

    • Digital currency/payment system evolution; cryptocurrency debates (maximalists vs. CBDC control advocates)

    • Intergenerational wealth transfer

    • Monetary policy and the role of governments & orgs like the IMF

    • Global financial flows, tax systems

    Personal Finance Culture

    • FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) extremists vs. consumer culture

    • Balancing spiritual/ethical dimensions of money and work

    Healthcare & Education

    • Healthcare access and delivery, COVID origins, vaccine debates

    • Alternative vs. conventional medicine, universal right vs. market solutions

    • Education reform (standardization vs. personalization; religious vs. secular; globally—cultural and developmental questions; role of government, school of choice, charter schools, etc)

    • Entrenched incentive landscapes and regulatory hurdles

    • The role of AI and technology in education, especially globally

    Cities, Infrastructure, & Emergency Response

    • Law enforcement reform and justice system design (defund vs. defend, “systemic racism,” crime prevention)

    • Building livable cities and homes

    • Public transportation design—traffic is horrific and massively polluting; the role autonomous vehicles, etc

    • Food sustainability, water security

    • Clean, reliable energy: nuclear advocates vs. renewables purists

    • Preparing for disasters (supply chain resilience, local emergency systems, pandemic preparedness and various questions on rights and responsibilities, individual v collective)

    • Internet and tech that serves people (digital infrastructure, cybersecurity)


    Cluster 4. Global Commons & Long-Term Civilizational Challenges

    Focus: Planetary-scale and existential issues: AI risk, climate change, geopolitics, resource depletion, space exploration—let’s ensure civilizational flourishing over the long term.

    AI Alignment

    • AI Alignment debates: dismissive vs. apocalyptic, government v free-market, so much here

    Existential Risks & Technology Governance

    • Stopping the next pandemic: surveillance state vs. individual liberty

    • Synthetic biology

    • Nanotech
    • Nuclear war,

    • Space weather events, asteroid risks

    Climate & Environment

    • Climate change: alarmism vs. denial, adaptation vs. mitigation, various solutions and framings, envisioning possibilities and how to get there

    • What do with global public goods? Eg: air, oceans, forests; water rights; peace; etc

      • Ocean ecosystem management (acidification, overfishing, pollution, coral reefs)

      • Resource depletion forecasts range from denial to doom

    Population & Migration

    • Population sustainability discussions, including birth and the role of families and space travel, etc.

    • Migration, refugees, and borders, racism

    Geopolitics & International Relations

    • China (eg: discussions frequently lack nuance)

    • Russia/Ukraine (eg: lacks context, extremely drama triangle-y)

    • The Middle East (eg: Us vs. them, tribalism, historical of context (and lack), lack of empathy on all sides, sloganism, "if you're not with us you're against us," etc.)

    • Role of US Military, “Threat of WWIII”

    • Sovereignty vs. world government

      • aforementioned network states, opt-in legal codes, etc

    • The rise of terrorism and non-state actors, especially how they coordinate and grow using distributed online systems and attract culturally disaffected

    Space Development & Exploration

    • Commercialization, space-based resources (asteroid mining, space-based solar)

    • Post-scarcity economics and cosmic evolution

    • Ethical dimensions of space colonization

    jordanSA•...
    I think the original list was too long and boring. Here's an updated list. I'll be continuing to refine it, and would still love input from y'all. I'm still not entirely sure what it's for......
    psychology
    philosophy
    sociology
    economics
    environmental science
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  • R

    What's your view on EMFs? What do you belief about EMFs? I keep hearing seemingly reputable people warning about them. My husband says the argument isn’t scientifically sound. If you think EMFs are harmful, why, and how do you reduce exposure? I use wireless headphones a lot- my phone not so much.

    jordanSA•...
    I’d love to hear more about this. Seems like a few of yall all were able to admit worry about microplatics. My wife is also worried about this, and has replaced all our kids’ plastic dishware with either metal or glass....
    public health
    environmental science
    consumer awareness
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  • annabeth avatar

    Teal Version of US Democracy. I asked ChatGpt what changes could be made to US democracy to make it teal. I really dig these concepts. I hadn’t ever heard of Liquid Voting before, and it sounds cool as heck.

    1. Ranked-Choice Voting (RCV) on a National Scale
      Description: Ranked-choice voting allows voters to rank candidates in order of preference rather than voting for just one candidate. If no candidate wins a majority of first-choice votes, the candidate with the fewest votes is eliminated, and their votes are redistributed based on voters’ next preferences. This process continues until a candidate wins a majority.
      Teal Impact: RCV encourages more nuanced, cooperative, and less divisive campaigns, as candidates are incentivized to appeal to a broader range of voters, not just their base. It reduces the polarization inherent in two-party systems and promotes coalition-building, which aligns with teal values of inclusivity, complexity thinking, and the integration of diverse perspectives.

    2. Deliberative Voting Structures
      Description: Deliberative democracy involves structured, informed, and inclusive discussions among citizens prior to voting. Participants engage in dialogue to explore different viewpoints and potential solutions before casting their vote.
      Teal Impact: This would encourage citizens to move beyond partisan talking points and engage in deep, meaningful discussions about policy and candidates. It fosters greater empathy, collaboration, and systems thinking—key elements of teal governance—by helping voters understand the interconnectedness of issues and the long-term consequences of their choices.

    3. Proportional Representation
      Description: In a proportional representation system, legislative seats are allocated based on the percentage of votes each party receives. For example, if a party receives 30% of the vote, they would hold 30% of the seats in the legislature.
      Teal Impact: Proportional representation encourages a more inclusive and diverse political landscape by allowing multiple parties and viewpoints to be represented. This system discourages binary winner-take-all thinking and creates space for collaboration and compromise. In a teal system, this would better reflect the complex spectrum of human development and values, leading to a more integrated and balanced government.

    4. Liquid Democracy
      Description: Liquid democracy allows voters to either cast their own vote on issues or delegate their vote to a trusted representative or expert. Unlike traditional representative systems, delegations can be revoked or reassigned at any time, allowing for a dynamic and responsive voting structure.
      Teal Impact: Liquid democracy would enable a more fluid and flexible form of representation, where citizens could actively participate in areas where they feel knowledgeable and delegate in areas where they do not. This approach mirrors teal values by empowering individuals to engage in governance based on their unique strengths and knowledge, while also fostering collective intelligence by delegating decisions to trusted experts when needed.

    5. Holacratic Voting
      Description: Holacratic governance is a decentralized system where power is distributed among roles or circles rather than individuals. In a holacratic voting structure, small, autonomous groups (circles) would vote on issues related to their specific roles and areas of expertise.
      Teal Impact: A holacratic system of voting would distribute decision-making power more evenly across the population, reflecting the teal emphasis on self-organization and decentralization. Citizens would have more direct influence on issues relevant to their communities and professions, creating a more organic and adaptable system of governance that empowers people at all levels.

    6. Consensus-Based Voting for Key Decisions
      Description: Instead of simple majority rule, consensus-based voting requires that decisions achieve broad agreement among participants, often with mechanisms to ensure minority voices are heard. Modifications to proposals can be made to accommodate different viewpoints.
      Teal Impact: Consensus-based voting aligns with teal’s focus on inclusivity, cooperation, and holistic solutions. It prevents majoritarian dominance and encourages decision-making processes that take into account the needs and concerns of all stakeholders. This approach fosters a deeper sense of community and shared responsibility, which is essential in a teal democracy.

    7. Policy Feedback Loops and Systems Thinking in Voting
      Description: In a teal democracy, voting structures could be designed to include mechanisms for ongoing policy feedback loops. Citizens would have the ability to vote on policies or amendments, but also provide real-time feedback on how policies are working through ongoing participatory platforms.
      Teal Impact: This system would help voters think in complex, systems-based terms, encouraging them to consider the long-term and interconnected effects of policies. By integrating feedback loops into the voting structure, it would create a more adaptive and responsive governance system that evolves based on the changing needs and conditions of society, aligning with teal’s focus on evolutionary development.

    8. Blockchain-Based Voting for Transparency and Trust
      Description: Blockchain technology can be used to create a secure, transparent voting system that allows for tamper-proof voting records. Voters can cast their votes digitally, and the system ensures that each vote is counted accurately while preserving voter anonymity.
      Teal Impact: Blockchain voting would enhance trust in the electoral process by providing complete transparency and accountability. This technology could reduce concerns about fraud or manipulation and make elections more accessible, particularly for marginalized communities. Teal democracy values transparency, trust, and fairness, and blockchain would support these principles.

    9. Participatory Budgeting at National and Local Levels
      Description: Participatory budgeting allows citizens to directly decide how to allocate a portion of the public budget. It has been used successfully in cities around the world to give citizens a direct say in how funds are spent on community projects.
      Teal Impact: By scaling participatory budgeting to both local and national levels, a teal voting structure would empower citizens to engage in collaborative decision-making about public resources. This process would deepen civic engagement, promote collective responsibility, and ensure that public spending aligns more closely with the needs and priorities of the people.

    10. Multi-Level and Issue-Specific Voting
      Description: In a teal democracy, voters could have the opportunity to vote on different levels of governance (local, state, national) and on specific issues, such as environmental policy, healthcare, or education, through issue-based elections. This could allow citizens to participate more actively in areas they are passionate or knowledgeable about.
      Teal Impact: Issue-specific voting reflects teal values by encouraging deeper engagement in governance. Citizens can focus their energy on specific issues where they have expertise or passion, allowing for more nuanced and informed decisions. It would also decentralize power and ensure that specific areas of governance are shaped by those most interested and knowledgeable about them.

    jordanSA•...
    yeah I think it’s a good example of healthy green. Blockchain same. We need a ton of these examples because it’s easy to forget that Green is absolutely groundbreakingly amazing....
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  • jordan avatar

    When it comes "the global warming debate," there are often third ways that are ignored. Often the framing is global warming and climate deniers or something like that.

    but it seems like there are obviously multiple perspectives here, and these two black and white boxes keep us from really seeing potential solutions.

    Bjorn Lomborg for example believes in man-made climate change, but also doesn’t like the alarmism. Although he cherry picks data like he accuses others of, he also I think rightfully points out lots of flaws in the arguments that help us identify solutions. Much of the hurricane damage increase over time is because we’re building bigger and more expensive houses in hurricane alleys; for this problem, we can stop building there; everybody stopping flying altogether until 2100 delays increases the increase by a few weeks, so stopping flying isn’t the solution. Often the solutions are smaller, more local, less sexy: want less polar bears to die? Increase regulation on poaching. (Polar bear populations are up over the past decade because of this, apparently). I would love to identify and popularize these solutions, so they are spoken in the same breath as global warming rather than it being all gloom and doom and end of the world.

    There are real tricky questions about what we’re trying to preserve and for whom, as well. If all we care about are humans and climate migration, then building infrastructure in places like Haiti and even evolving to coal power would be more helpful.

    Shera JoyCry•...
    Love the "this" as it seems the dominating narratives are very far from this very encompassing list. What does this list "this" actually translate to? Can I speak/type without the rage trickling or dominating the energy of the ideas....
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  • jordan avatar

    When it comes "the global warming debate," there are often third ways that are ignored. Often the framing is global warming and climate deniers or something like that.

    but it seems like there are obviously multiple perspectives here, and these two black and white boxes keep us from really seeing potential solutions.

    Bjorn Lomborg for example believes in man-made climate change, but also doesn’t like the alarmism. Although he cherry picks data like he accuses others of, he also I think rightfully points out lots of flaws in the arguments that help us identify solutions. Much of the hurricane damage increase over time is because we’re building bigger and more expensive houses in hurricane alleys; for this problem, we can stop building there; everybody stopping flying altogether until 2100 delays increases the increase by a few weeks, so stopping flying isn’t the solution. Often the solutions are smaller, more local, less sexy: want less polar bears to die? Increase regulation on poaching. (Polar bear populations are up over the past decade because of this, apparently). I would love to identify and popularize these solutions, so they are spoken in the same breath as global warming rather than it being all gloom and doom and end of the world.

    There are real tricky questions about what we’re trying to preserve and for whom, as well. If all we care about are humans and climate migration, then building infrastructure in places like Haiti and even evolving to coal power would be more helpful.

    jordanSA•...
    Ah, from chatGPT: Technological challenges: Most methane is emitted through burps, making capture via backpacks inefficient. High costs: Development and maintenance are expensive with limited financial benefits for farmers....
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  • jordan avatar

    When it comes "the global warming debate," there are often third ways that are ignored. Often the framing is global warming and climate deniers or something like that.

    but it seems like there are obviously multiple perspectives here, and these two black and white boxes keep us from really seeing potential solutions.

    Bjorn Lomborg for example believes in man-made climate change, but also doesn’t like the alarmism. Although he cherry picks data like he accuses others of, he also I think rightfully points out lots of flaws in the arguments that help us identify solutions. Much of the hurricane damage increase over time is because we’re building bigger and more expensive houses in hurricane alleys; for this problem, we can stop building there; everybody stopping flying altogether until 2100 delays increases the increase by a few weeks, so stopping flying isn’t the solution. Often the solutions are smaller, more local, less sexy: want less polar bears to die? Increase regulation on poaching. (Polar bear populations are up over the past decade because of this, apparently). I would love to identify and popularize these solutions, so they are spoken in the same breath as global warming rather than it being all gloom and doom and end of the world.

    There are real tricky questions about what we’re trying to preserve and for whom, as well. If all we care about are humans and climate migration, then building infrastructure in places like Haiti and even evolving to coal power would be more helpful.

    tommySA•...

    here’s a pretty creative global warming solution - cow fart backpacks

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